Hi Deborah -
Thanks for responding.
Regarding those Unicode fields in 9.2, yes they exist (we have 9.2). However, this functionality seems limited in that (as far as I can tell) TMS currently allows only 1 Unicode/non-western language translation per field. The Unicode functionality field appears to be a fairly simple text box, and doesn't appear to have a way to record what language the translation is, who wrote the translation, when, etc., other than embedding that information into the translation itself. It seems like it would be more useful, if more than one translation could be linked to a single field, and there could be a way to record additional information about that data (so that it could be properly exported to the web, or to a report).
Allison
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the warhol:
Allison A. Smith
Collection Manager / Database Administrator
117 Sandusky Street
Pittsburgh, PA 15212
T 412.237.8345
F 412.237.8340
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W www.warhol.org <http://www.warhol.org>
W www.warholstore.com <http://www.warholstore.com>
The Andy Warhol Museum
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They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself -- Andy Warhol
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From: The Museum System (TMS) Users
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Subject: Re: Events and Site modules, and eMuseum
Hi Allison,
I can share a little information re: your second goal. We would also like to record information in non-Western European languages, but have found that to be problematic because of the limited number of fields supported. I understand that in 9.2 you can enter Unicode data in 10 fields: Display Name and Display Bio in Constituents, and Title, Object Name, Description, Inscriptions, Signed, Marks, Notes, and Curatorial Remarks in Objects. If that covers your needs for multilingual support then you may be able to store the data for your site in TMS.
Deborah Lenert
Digital Projects Specialist
Getty Research Institute
Standards & Digital Resource Mgt. Dept.
phone: (310) 440-7351/ fax: (310) 440-7780
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Dear TMS Users -
Our Education Department has shown interest in using TMS as a archival repository for their educational materials, which help teach the story of Andy Warhol, as well as the related people, concepts, techniques, events, places, and issues related to his life and/or body of work. Their ultimate goal is to build a website for teachers, where educators can use the materials (mainly downloadable PDF "activity" files) found at the site, for classroom purposes. They are also interested in creating an Andy Warhol Timeline, in which people can look at specific dates in Warhol's history, read about Andy, and then get related records to other events or trends occurring in history at that time (not only in the United States, but in other countries).
The second ultimate goal, is to have this site be in other languages, beginning with Russian, and possibly Chinese, and probably including many of the European languages representative of the countries to which our collection regularly travels. This second goal, we realize, will be extremely tricky, and may not include using TMS as a repository for the foreign language translations at all. We're still trying to figure this out. Anyone out there dealt with this issue?
I do think it's possible that TMS can be used to accommodate the educational information and exercises created by our Ed. Dept. I also think their information has the potential to make our entire database much richer. From my initial playing around with their data, it seems like Constituents, Events, and Sites are going to be very important modules for them to use. In regards to Events, we are expanding our definition of what "Events" actually means, to be able to accommodate the following subjects: Historical Events, Natural Events, Political Events, Activities, Concepts, Themes, Techniques, Processes, Styles, Periods, Movements, and the Warhol Timeline (so far). We will be using the Attributes section of the Events module, to help facilitate searching across these subjects.
My question to the list serve is - has anyone out there really developed TMS for use in this way? Is anyone out there regularly using Sites and Events for holding data about places, and/or for non-object/constituent specific subject matter related to their collection? If so, have you found it problematic that in TMS, Sites can't be related (through the Display Mode - Hierarchy) to Events?
Here is a listing of other modules that don't link. Question - has it been problematic for anyone out there, that these modules don't link?
Sites doesn't link to:
Events
Exhibitions
Events doesn't link to:
Sites
Exhibitions
Bibliography
Exhibitions doesn't link to:
Sites
Events
Bibliography
Bibliography doesn't link to:
Events
Exhibitions
Finally, we're looking into purchasing eMuseum, as a building block for our website. What has been your general experience with this product? For those of you that have purchased eMuseum, how accommodating has GS been with requests for functionality that eMuseum may not currently have? (or TMS for that matter).
Sorry this has been so long. I always find it necessary to give a lot of context.
It would be really great to hear from anyone out there, who may be dealing with these issues. We'd like to know if others are developing (or thought about developing) TMS in this way, and what successes (or pitfalls), they've encountered with their projects, and/or eMuseum.
Thanks so much!
Allison
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the warhol:
Allison A. Smith
Collection Manager / Database Administrator
117 Sandusky Street
Pittsburgh, PA 15212
T 412.237.8345
F 412.237.8340
E [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
W www.warhol.org <http://www.warhol.org>
W www.warholstore.com <http://www.warholstore.com>
The Andy Warhol Museum
One of the four Carnegie Museums of Pittsburgh
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They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself -- Andy Warhol
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