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Lew Guenther <[log in to unmask]>
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My understanding is that there are no current plans to import an updated
version of the AAT. I asked Gallery Systems a few months ago before we
started adding a number of terms locally. 

They also did not rule out the possibility that there might be an update
in the future, so we decided to add the terms in the Authorities
section, rather than worry about how the AAT database would handle an
upgrade. This way we can just install the new instance of AAT and still
keep all our local terms. 

Lew Guenther
Collections Systems Administrator
Vulcan, Inc.
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(206) 342-2266


-----Original Message-----
From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Smith, Allison
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:38 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: TMS listserv, AAT and animals AND NEW: SUBJECT CATALOGUING

Hello again -

Currently, TMS does not have the most updated version of the AAT
installed in it (does anyone know when it will be upgraded in TMS?)
There are many terms that I would like to use, that are available on the
AAT website, but not in TMS, which is problematic. In addition, there
are many subject terms that I'd like to use, that may never be available
in the AAT, as they might be outside the scope of that tool.

While I realize that many people are currently organizing subject and
object names terms into the AAT in the Thesaurus section of TMS, I was
wondering - in regards to organizing terms into the AAT, has anyone ever
really determined that if and when the AAT is upgraded in TMS, that the
links for your added terms will be retained? I remember asking GS about
this, before I signed the contract, and didn't get a satisfactory
answer. Maybe that issue has been resolved in the last 5 years? If so,
why hasn't the AAT been upgraded in TMS?

Last thing I'd like to know, how many people are using the LCSH (Library
of Congress Subject Headings), and how are you organizing these terms,
if not in the AAT?  

Thanks!
Allison


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-----Original Message-----
From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Smith, Allison
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 5:05 PM
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Subject: Re: TMS listserv, AAT and animals AND NEW: SUBJECT CATALOGUING

I wouldn't be surprised to find a finger licking good piece of something
(now unidentifiable) in a Time Capsule at some point...
:)

However, Julie does bring up an issue I've been dealing with. We have
lots of items in the Archives that the AAT doesn't currently have terms
for (vibrators, prescription drugs, ketchup and mustard packets,
cigarettes) not to mention subjects (drag queens, transvestites, etc.)

Are they very many people out there in TMS land, attempting to do
subject cataloguing on their collection?  I'm curious.  How
successful/unsuccessful has it been using the AAT to find appropriate
terms?

Allison




-----Original Message-----
From: The Museum System (TMS) Users
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Julie Thies
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:43 PM
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Subject: Re: TMS listserv, AAT and animals


But then I would have to determine if it was crispy or original
recipe...

It is a 17th century Dutch painting, depicting various poultry.
Or, all the works we have which depict a horse.

Julie

-----Original Message-----
From: The Museum System (TMS) Users
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jeri Moxley
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:33 PM
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Subject: Re: TMS listserv, AAT and animals


Perhaps Kentucky fried? 

-----Original Message-----
From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Chad Petrovay
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:35 PM
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Subject: Re: TMS listserv, AAT and animals

There is no animal section of the AAT - are you looking to describe a
depiction of a chicken, or have you accessioned parts of a chicken?

Chad M Petrovay
Collections Database Administrator
P: 410.547.9000 x266

-----Original Message-----
From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Julie Thies
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:32 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: TMS listserv, AAT and animals

Has anyone had any luck with the AAT and animals?  When searching for
Horse, all I found for the single term 'horse' was a piece of equipment:
framework functioning as a temporary support.
When searching for chicken, all I found were chicken related pieces,
such as a chicken coup.  But nothing that refers to poultry, foul, bird
or hen.
Am I missing the 'animal' section somewhere?
Or, I am trying to get something out of the AAT that does not exist.

Thank you,
Julie Thies
Manager of Collections Information
The Speed Art Museum, Louisville, KY

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