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Thanks for everyone's help with this topic.  I now have my own growing list of animals that I'm adding to the AAT myself.

Thank you,
Julie Thies
Manager of Collections Information
The Speed Art Museum, Louisville, KY

-----Original Message-----
From: The Museum System (TMS) Users
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Guerra, Mary Ellen
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:14 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: TMS listserv, AAT and animals AND NEW: SUBJECT CATALOGUING


Catherine Goodwin raises a valid point, "This is one of those times when
it's a good thing to have more than one authority to choose from"

The AAT stands for Art and Architecture Thesaurus and it contains terms
relating to art and architecture. It doesn't aspire to be the entire
universe. 

There are other ways to capture all the things that can be depicted in a
work of art. Cataloguing Cultural Objects A Guide to Describing Cultural
Works and Their Images by Murtha Baca, Patricia Harpring, Elisa Lanzi,
Linda McRae, and Ann Whiteside published by the American Library
Association has a section on Subject matter with an extensive
bibliography.

The Smithsonian American Art Museum has been using a thesaurus adapted
from one used by the Yale Center for British Art. You can find a
synopsis of ours on our web site. Go to
http://americanart.si.edu/search/subject_terms.pdf It is admittedly
quirky and limited, but has served us well for decades.

I would like to take this opportunity to bid farewell to the members of
this list since I will be retiring next week. It has been a pleasure to
be part of this community and I hope you continue to work together to
help one another and Gallery Systems to improve how we do our work and
serve our public.

Mary Ellen Guerra
Collection Database Administrator
Smithsonian American Art Museum



-----Original Message-----
From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Smith, Allison
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 5:05 PM
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Subject: Re: TMS listserv, AAT and animals AND NEW: SUBJECT CATALOGUING

I wouldn't be surprised to find a finger licking good piece of something
(now unidentifiable) in a Time Capsule at some point...
:)

However, Julie does bring up an issue I've been dealing with. We have
lots of items in the Archives that the AAT doesn't currently have terms
for (vibrators, prescription drugs, ketchup and mustard packets,
cigarettes) not to mention subjects (drag queens, transvestites, etc.)

Are they very many people out there in TMS land, attempting to do
subject cataloguing on their collection?  I'm curious.  How
successful/unsuccessful has it been using the AAT to find appropriate
terms?

Allison




-----Original Message-----
From: The Museum System (TMS) Users
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Julie Thies
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:43 PM
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Subject: Re: TMS listserv, AAT and animals


But then I would have to determine if it was crispy or original
recipe...

It is a 17th century Dutch painting, depicting various poultry.
Or, all the works we have which depict a horse.

Julie

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Jeri Moxley
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:33 PM
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Subject: Re: TMS listserv, AAT and animals


Perhaps Kentucky fried? 

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Chad Petrovay
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:35 PM
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Subject: Re: TMS listserv, AAT and animals

There is no animal section of the AAT - are you looking to describe a
depiction of a chicken, or have you accessioned parts of a chicken?

Chad M Petrovay
Collections Database Administrator
P: 410.547.9000 x266

-----Original Message-----
From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
On Behalf Of Julie Thies
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:32 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: TMS listserv, AAT and animals

Has anyone had any luck with the AAT and animals?  When searching for
Horse, all I found for the single term 'horse' was a piece of equipment:
framework functioning as a temporary support.
When searching for chicken, all I found were chicken related pieces,
such as a chicken coup.  But nothing that refers to poultry, foul, bird
or hen.
Am I missing the 'animal' section somewhere?
Or, I am trying to get something out of the AAT that does not exist.

Thank you,
Julie Thies
Manager of Collections Information
The Speed Art Museum, Louisville, KY

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