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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 13:08:07 +0000
From: "Mahdi, Fatima (VMFA)" <[log in to unmask]>
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And just to round out the discussion, here is what we've been doing at the Virginia Museum of Fine Arts for the last few years.
The curators create a TMS record for each work they are considering acquiring, using their departmental prefix, the current year, and the auto-numbering button. We've made a view/form as an "Acquisition Request Worksheet" with all the fields they need to fill out to create a record that is ready for approval by the head of curatorial and the director. When they have everything in place, they print a report from the record, which is signed by the two approvers, those approval dates are entered in the TMS form, and then the registrars use the contact information in the TMS record to arrange for shipment.
After the quarterly Board of Trustees meeting when acquisitions are approved, the registrar changes the consideration number to an accession number, keeping the consideration number as a previous number for search purposes. Records for works not acquired are deleted.
We have found it helpful to have a record as early as possible so the registrars and conservators know what is coming down the pipe, and for art handling and photography to have a record in place when the works come in the building.
The curators, however, want to create a single record for group acquisitions, and it takes so much work to gather the information to split those record that that often ends up happening after the work is officially accessioned. That is the one aspect we're still struggling with!
Thanks to everyone who responded!
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The National Portrait Gallery's system is like the Fenimore's. We refer to these objects as "pending acquisitions", and we assign them numbers that begin with "PA" and include the year NPG begins planning for their loan/shipment to NPG. Curators may work for years on a potential acquisition, but an object record is not entered in TMS until the curator (armed with all the necessary information, including lender name and contact info, object value and tombstone data) makes an official request to the registrars to initiate the loan and shipment so that the object can be brought to NPG and presented to the NPG Commission. After objects are approved-or not-at the next Commission meeting (held twice a year), they are either assigned a permanent accession number (the PA number is kept as an alternate number), or they are given an "NA" number, indicating they were not acquired. If they are not acquired, the location is updated to "Left NPG Custody."
I'm interested to hear more answers from others. Thanks for the good questions, Fatima! (I'll answer the other one next.)
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As collections manager and de facto head of TMS in my institution, I'm the one who creates and manipulates all records (with some edits from curators and the registrar in certain areas).
When an object is going to the Collections Advisory Committee, I create a "pre-entry" record (I think this is a term we picked up from our old database, SKINsoft/S-Museum) with the next in our sequence of pre-entry numbers, "TCRXXXX". Generally, if it's going to CAC, there's already been some level of approval - it's an artwork that has already been purchased, or that a curator intends us to accept, or a historical artifact that I'm going to advocate for because it will benefit our collection. (I am the first line of defense with the public and I will often decline on the phone or by email to the initial offer if it's obviously not going to be for us.) Once it's accepted and the deed of gift has been signed and returned, the registrar assigns an accession number, moving the TCR number to an alternate number field for record-keeping purposes. If an object goes to the meeting and get declined, the prefix is changed to "DTCR" (D for declined).
If there are just a few objects, I'll usually create a record for each to save time later, numbering them "TCRXXXX(01)" and so on. This way I can start cataloguing early, and if we do decide to decline one or some of them, they're already separated in the database.
If there are many or I'm low on time, I might do one record for the batch. If there's a long time between acceptance and assignment of a number and I want to get started cataloguing, I might separate them out into individual pre-entry records, but I'm more likely to wait until the number has been assigned and set, and then copy that initial record to create the new ones. If some of the large batch gets declined, we split the main record into .01 and .02 so that one can be accessioned and the other made a DTCR.
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Another question from Virginia:
If you create records for works that are being considered for acquisition before they are accessioned, do you always create a record for each individual work? If so, how do you deal with the uncertainty of the information on donations before they come in the door?
Do you sometimes create single records for group considerations, like 57 works by Hokusai from a single donor? If so, when do these group records get split to create a record for each individual object, and who does the work?
We appreciate your wisdom!
Cheers,
Fatima
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