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Very well said Jeremy!

Here is the info to join Slack. There are 180 users there.

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On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 1:51 PM Munro, Jeremy T. <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Howdy all,

I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone for being part of the TMS Users Listserv these past [decades, terrifying]. This listserv was the first thing I joined when I started my professional career at Crystal Bridges and I found it so empowering to be in touch with people elsewhere attempting to solve not just TMS issues, but database and workplace conceptual issues in general.

I think its worth noting too that the listserv shutting down is its own form of what I’ve been calling “the death of the dream of the internet” – that dreams is one where the platforms we communicate on or through are not mediated by private companies or large tech companies. I think its important that any kind of labor has spaces to talk outside the walled garden and in fact I’d argue this benefits companies as well! I thank Gallery Systems for being supportive of the listserv these past years and having a very healthy, mediated relationship to it. I am sure Gallery Systems has benefitted from the free flowing discussion here that might be different within a more enclosed proprietary platform.

Obviously, we have the TMS Slack and Gallery Systems community site, but as someone who’s been in dozens of online communities over the years (ask me about doing essentially HR at 16 for online gamers) – that online communities really only work when people have the impetus to actively collaborate in ways that work well for them. Listserv wasn’t always perfect and your mileage varied based on email management, but it did have “the juice” in terms of a reputation of you go here to get assistance or to boost something. I’ve seen so many online communities form only for people to never or barely use them and its interesting how what are thought of as out of date, not slick, legacy platforms are thought of more positively (Craigslist, Reddit for example) than the nice, almost too easy to use and uncustomizable ‘slick’ platforms. Non-customization after all just means you don’t have control after all. I personally think human beings like a little bit of tension and difficulty in our communication which is part of why email has stuck around!

Anyway, really enjoyed the listserv and I will see you all on the other platforms (or not).

Best,

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From: The Museum System (TMS) Users <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Morgan, Rob
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2025 12:40 PM
To: ListServ tmsusers <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: Re: TMSUSERS LISTSERV will be decommissioned. Join Slack! Please.

Hi everyone,

I learned last week that the TMS listserv will be closed by the Smithsonian Institution on May 31, 2025.

I’m still talking to our IT team at the Smithsonian to see if we can save an archive of the listserv.

Per Shannon, TMS Slack is a great alternative.

In addition, I talked to Gallery Systems about the closing of the listserv and they recommend their TMS Community site.  See Robb Detlefs statement below:


It is pretty easy to go to the Topics menu, click the FOLLOW button on a topic, then click the little email notification icon.



Ask the Community: If you click the Topics menu and choose <topic>, you will be on the "Discussions" page. This page can be seen by all members of the Community and is a great way to share questions and answers with each other (like we used to do on the User's Listserv). You can share screenshots and even file attachments like cool report templates or keyword lists. Be sure to click the FOLLOW button (on the right) and set automatic email notification so that you alerted about new questions.

I will keep you all posted with any new developments regarding the listserv.


  *   Rob Morgan (IT, Smithsonian)

From: The Museum System (TMS) Users <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Gilbert, Shannon
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2025 12:22 PM
To: ListServ tmsusers <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
Subject: TMSUSERS LISTSERV will be decommissioned. Join Slack! Please.

Dear colleagues,

Heard today that our [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> will be decommissioned soon.

Please join the TMS USERS slack. If you cannot download the Slack APP, you can open the Slack channel in your web browser.
Use this link to Join. You will see threads dedicated to TMS, TMS Collections, eMuseum etc.
Link expires April 9th, email me if you need a new link my email is listed below.

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Looking forward!


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