Thanks, Sue. Always good to know that others have the same/similar
issues! I'd imagine that most museums and galleries (probably more the
case for galleries?) that acquire and borrow objects encounter the
situation where an Object is first borrowed and then acquired and
consequently where its corresponding Object record requires a new number
and corresponding object status (this rather than creating duplicate
Object records). It would be good to be able to record both an alternate
(i.e. 'historical') number and a related 'historical' object status. 

Re temporary works, we also discussed having a location authority of
'not applicable' and including information about the object's temporary
status in the object's description. I'd not thought of xref'd
'destroyed' constituent - another option to consider :-)

Jon


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From: Susan Garton [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: 29 September 2004 17:38
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Subject: Re: Object records


Jon,

NPG has confronted each one of your issues. We enter objects with PA/NPG
numbers when they are "Pending Acquisitions." If they are accessioned,
they get NPG numbers, and if they are rejected, they go into the
department of the Catalog of American Portraits and get CAP numbers.
Either way, the PA number goes into Altenate Numbers. If accessioned,
the Object Status becomes "Accessioned object," and if rejected, it
becomes "Rejected." Returned loans (Both long term and exhibition loans)
also go into the CAP department, and the former loans status is
reflected in the Object Status field, which becomes "Returned loan." We
have begun entering former credt lines as text entries. Our biggest
problem seems to be (like yours) when something has more than one Object
Status, like "Accessioned object" and "Returned loan." We try to
clarifiy using text fields such as Notes, Curatorial Remarks and
Provenance, and the Location History is also very helpful. It is
definitely difficult to make hard-and-fast rules as to how to handle
these. 

For objects that no longer exist (similar to the temporary object case
you mentioned,) we have a constituent record called "Destroyed" that is
the object's Current Owner. But it seems more logical to record it in
Object Status. We may begin recording it there as well--we entered it as
a constituent only because every object we enter is supposed to have a
Current Owner (because of the CAP.)

As for Exhibition Object Statuses, we do use them, not only for objects
that are "Dropped" from an exhibition, but as of recently, also for the
status of exhibition prep work like conservation, photography, matting,
framing, etc. These statuses were added so that reports could be
generated for the people involved in the prep work, and so far, it is
working well. We also have some marketing and publicity-related statuses
like "Pitch book image" and "Press packet image."

Back to the recycling objects issue, I think you are right about
training being important. Because it is difficult to be perfectly clear
and consistent, users have to know where to look for things. We try to
keep things from falling through the cracks with queries, but those
doing the querying also have to be pretty crafty.

Sue

Susan Foster Garton
Data Administrator
Center for Electronic Research and Outreach Services
National Portrait Gallery
Tel:  (202) 275-1842
Fax:  (202) 275-1907
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Hello everyone!

Has anyone encountered problems 're-using' Object records? The sort of
thing I'm thinking of is related to 'alternate' numbers. For example,
where an object was a long loan in, with an 'L' pre-fixed Object record
number, was returned to it's lender and then borrowed again, re-using
the Object record, but with a new 'X' pre-fixed number assigned. Our
users are concerned that it's not immediately apparent that a short-term
loan was once a long-loan and they're also not keen on over-writing
credit lines where this is the case. On the latter I've suggested that
we could store previous credit lines as a text-entry and for the former,
create a status flag indicating that an Object has an alternate number -
or more explicitly that an Object has changed it's status at some point
- for example 'previously long-loan'?. Maybe it's a training issue? One
thing that has occurred is that it would be useful if the Object Number
quick search feature searched all object numbers for an Object. It would
also be useful if 'alternate numbers' could be included in use defined
forms.

Also, we're not sure how to proceed cataloguing 'temporary' objects e.g.
a wall painting created for a specific exhibition and then painted over
so that, in effect, they no longer exist. Create an object status; a
status flag; record via a location? Something else? How have you tackled
these sorts of objects?

A final query... does anybody else use the Object status on the
Exhibition record to record whether an Object is
agreed/declined/provisional for a given Exhibition? Any
problems/thoughts? We have written reports summarising Exhibition
records that include/exclude Objects based on the value of the Object
status and that also provide details of the Object status - useful where
an object is provisionally agreed (this can't be done with the yes/no
included/excluded windows on the exhibition record). But users still
tend to want the list of Objects visible on the Objects tab to be the
actual Objects in the exhibition and to simply delete Objects not in the
exhibition - which loses the information about them having been
considered, but subsequently rejected/declined etc.. More training?! :-)

Thanks
Jon


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