Hello I think with music its quite common for the maker of a record to be distinct from the publisher of the music; the distributer is often distinct as well. And what about producers and engineers? :) I guess sorting out depends on how you use 'Roles'. Jon Tate -----Original Message----- From: Smith, Allison [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 01 July 2004 16:49 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: role question Hi Ella - These are the Roles that we use in TMS: Contributor Copyright Holder Manufacturer Primary Maker Publisher Secondary Maker Source Subject Associated Subject Depicted/About I use mainly the Display Suffix field to explain the role of the person or organization. For example: Primary Maker: Andy Warhol (artist) Secondary Maker: Rupert Jason Smith (printer) Subject Depicted/About: Julia Warhola (depicted) If your question is about a phonograph record, and the role of the Record Company which published it - for all of the phonograph records in our collection, I have the Record Company's listed as publishers. Publisher: Elektra/Asylum Records (publisher) I think it is correct according to the library MARC format, to list Record Company's in the Role of "Publisher", although it's possible that in the Display Suffix field - they should be listed as "distributor" instead of "publisher". Does anyone out there have an opinion about Record Company's as publishers vs. distributors...? .................................................................. .................................................................. the warhol: Allison A. Smith Collection Manager / Database Administrator 117 Sandusky Street Pittsburgh, PA 15212 T 412.237.8345 F 412.237.8340 E [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> W www.warhol.org <http://www.warhol.org <http://www.warhol.org/> > W www.warholstore.com <http://www.warholstore.com <http://www.warholstore.com/> > The Andy Warhol Museum One of the four Carnegie Museums of Pittsburgh .................................................................. .................................................................. -----Original Message----- From: Ella Rothgangel [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 10:39 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: role question We have a Bruce Nauman record in the collection for which we are trying to come up with an appropriate role for the company that actually produced the record. (Bruce Nauman's role is artist). We have used maker, manufacturer, and publisher before in TMS, but I'm not sure that those are appropriate for this case. I'd appreciate anyone's suggestions or thoughts on what the object-related roles should be. Thank you, Ella Rothgangel Collections Database Administrator Saint Louis Art Musem [log in to unmask]