That’s fantastic, Danielle!  Thanks!

 

If this is a feature coming up, would it be worth waiting until we have 9.38 before we start this project, or can it easily be added on once we’ve upgraded?

 

David

 

From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Danielle Uchitelle
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Frames as separate objects

 

David,

 

In TMS 9.38 there is a new object relationship called “separable object.”  One of the main features of separable objects is that, when you move one, you get an alert asking if you also want to move all related co-located separable objects.  In this case co-located simply means related separable objects currently in the same location.

 

This feature was initially designed to manage things like print portfolios but I can see how it could also be used to manage frames created as separable object records related to the primary object record. 

 

Danielle Uchitelle

 


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From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Yukich
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:35 PM
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It’s a great idea David.

 

We have had the same issue with artwork frames, and have recently decided to remove frames as object components.

I would also be keen to hear of any solutions people have in dealing with frames, such as David as indicated.

 

Sarah

 

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From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Aylsworth, David
Sent: Tuesday, 14 July 2009 5:28 AM
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Subject: Frames as separate objects

 

A week or so ago, there was a thread going for those of you who made individual records for non-art components of a work of art (frame, crate, pedestal, mount, etc.). 

 

I am leaning towards starting a global policy here whereby EVERY frame in our museum would have a unique record in TMS, whether it lived on its work of art or not.  The frame would be linked to the object, and if a frame was used over and over again, could be linked to multiple objects, creating a history of use for the frame.

 

It seems to me that if EVERY frame were not entered separately—even those frames that are never removed from a painting—people who move the objects would easily get confused as to knowing when to do a location change for a frame and when not to.  If the frames are linked to the object, an art handler who moves a painting with a frame can easily toggle over to the record for the frame and make that location change as well.

 

BUT how do you handle moving entire groups of objects, like moving an entire exhibition or object package worth of objects if whoever made the exhibition record or object package didn’t add the frame records?  Is there a way of calling for all of the “related” objects for ALL of the records in a group?

 

Am I nuts for thinking this is a good idea?

 

Thanks in advance for your wisdom and insight…

 

David

 

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Presenting North Looks South: Building the Latin American Art Collection

on view June 7 – September 27, 2009