I haven’t come up with a scintillating title for
this event yet, but I’m trying to organize a roundtable at AAM for discussing
this kind of thing. It will be in Houston next year.
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Emily
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 9:15 AM
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Subject: Re: Culture, Constituent or Both
Jeri,
The Culture field in the Objects Module can be set to be a drop
down or a free text field. I can send you a screen shot of ours if you like.
We create a constituent record for the culture/tribe only if
there is no known artist, like with Pre-Columbian things.
Emily
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Jeri
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:09 PM
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Subject: Re: Culture, Constituent or Both
What are you using as the culture field? That field isn’t
a drop-down in TMS.
And, are you saying that in the Constituents module you use the
Culture field to record nationalities? Why not use the nationality field? Or
are you saying that you put artist nationality in the culture field of objects,
as if the artworks themselves have a nationality?
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Emily
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:36 PM
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Subject: Re: Culture, Constituent or Both
At the MFAH we are using both: because it is a drop down, the
Culture field is a convenient way of searching. In the Culture field, we are
able to collocate like culture groups, e.g.,
Pre-Columbian, Maya
Pre-Columbian, Mezcala
Pre-Columbian, Mixtec
Pre-Columbian, Moche
But we also create constituent records for culture groups when
there is no known artist, because this is what displays on gallery labels
whenever Culture is displayed on a label. It is a little redundant, but no
different from any other element where there is an indexed value and a
displayed (label) value.
We also populate the culture field for works with known artists.
There are problems, I’ll admit, when an artist’s place of legal citizenship
(nationality) differs from the place the artist was most productive (For
example, Picasso is Spanish but he was prolific in France and very much
influenced by French painters; he gave many pieces French titles.) Some artists
have multiple nationalities, and there is no standard approach for how to
populate the culture field in these instances. One might decide to input
whatever is the preferred nationality in ULAN, or input all of the
nationalities. If one puts all into the culture field, should one list them in
alpha order so they collocate, or by the nationality which is most
associated with the artist (in diminishing order), or by the nationality most
closely associated with the object’s provenance? It is very hard.
CCO advises using this field when the artist is unknown.
Emily Nedell Tuck
Data Standards Manager
Museum of Fine Arts, Houston
P.O. Box 6826, Houston, TX 77265-6826
1001 Bissonnet Street, Houston, Texas 77005
(713) 353-1523
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Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:03 PM
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Subject: Re: Culture, Constituent or Both
The Freer-Sackler creates constituent records for cultures
– this way descriptive data can be added to each record, maps, archival
images – all the tools of the constituents module, plus the Xref fields
of prefix and suffix as modifiers. They are usually linked to objects with the
role “Artist” when an individual is not known but the work of art
is clearly representative of a culture, i.e. Ancient Chinese cultures. Having
it as a constituent also means we can list all the alternate names, and in
TMS2010 select the preferred name.
We removed the actual “Culture” field because people
had been using it too liberally. Constituent records have been a much better
solution.
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Petrovay
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 12:35 PM
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Subject: Re: Culture, Constituent or Both
We have yet to address cultures as constituents. Since the
Culture field is just a text field, it has cause problems, in that some objects
in our collection are shared by several cultures. We have this field set to
display as a distinct list in queries, which was to help promote
standardization on the demonyms entered. But we end up with “Igbo”,
“Yoruba, Igbo”, and “Yoruba” all as separate entries.
I’m liking the idea of using the constituents to help
control these, but in some ways, I also wish that Culture field was both a
controlled assistant and label field, the way that Medium, Dimensions, or
ObjectName currently work.
Chad Petrovay |
Collections Database Administrator
MIM—Musical Instrument Museum |
4725 E. Mayo Boulevard | Phoenix, AZ 85050
480.478.6000 main | 480.478.6058 direct |
480.471.8690 fax | www.themim.org
Blog: www.petrovay.com/tmsblog
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Ashley
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 4:52 AM
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Subject: Culture, Constituent or Both
Hello
TMS Users-
I
have a question for you all regarding the preferred placement of culture in
TMS. Although there is a field for culture, I notice quite a lot of
people will also insert the culture into the constituent field. For example, an
Italian work that is unknown would have Italian in the culture field and then
under constituent (object related) would be Unknown, Italian. What is the
best option, culture only or both? One of my thoughts is that it might
actually be better to have it in both places for exportation purposes. I would
love to hear what other people are doing and the reasoning as to why you would
choose one over the other.
Thanks!
Ashley
Ashley
Burke
Associate
Registrar
The
John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art
5401
Bay Shore Rd.
Sarasota,
FL 34243
941-359-5700
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