Some works (e.g., photographs) in our collection include ten or more "identified" individuals. Other works may be associated with an individual (e.g., a silver piece presented to an historical figure). We are temporarily "parking" information in two flex fields, pending future development of subject cataloguing. These fields are: Associated with Person depicted Merrianne Timko Data Standards Manager The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston PO Box 6826 Houston, Texas 77265-6826 713.353.1523 Office From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gabriela Zoller Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 10:10 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: identifying sitter or subject of a painting/portrait through constituent xref We use depicts (object - person/place) and depicted in (person/place - object) Best, Gabriela Gabriela Zoller Acting Head of Research Resources / Art Collection Cataloger Department of Research Resources Albright-Knox Art Gallery 1285 Elmwood Avenue Buffalo, New York 14222 716.270.8277 (ph) [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wilson Jarred Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:22 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: identifying sitter or subject of a painting/portrait through constituent xref Hi all, I'm trying to wrap my head around an issue involving constituent xrefs on object records. For sitters of portraits, we have utilized a role called "Sitter" to link a constituent to the object record. We would like to do something similar with people depicted (but who didn't necessarily model or sit for a piece) in a photograph or poster. "Sitter" doesn't seem to work well because, based on the Getty AAT definition<http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=sitter&logic=AND¬e=&page=1&subjectid=300189844>, it relates very specifically to portrait and not to other visual works. I am hesitant to call them the "Subject" because I think that term would get confused with overall subject or genre of a painting (i.e. "allegory"). Has anyone used constituent xrefs in the object record to identify the person depicted in a photograph? If so, what role have you used to do this? If anyone has any insight which they could pass along, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance! Sincerely, Jarred Wilson Associate Registrar The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art 5401 Bay Shore Road Sarasota, FL 34243 tel. 941-359-5700 x1504 fax 941-359-7716 www.ringling.org<http://www.ringling.org/> [TheRingling_iconsTOP_fsu] To unsubscribe, send an email to [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> with the following commands in the body of the email: signoff TMSUSERS // eoj You will receive a confirmation that your subscription has been removed. To unsubscribe, send an email to [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> with the following commands in the body of the email: signoff TMSUSERS // eoj You will receive a confirmation that your subscription has been removed. To unsubscribe, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following commands in the body of the email: signoff TMSUSERS // eoj You will receive a confirmation that your subscription has been removed.