We use a ConXref role "Depicted" for this. It works quite well, as some of our depicted constituents are actually donors of objects, etc. Similar, we have a Geography Xref "Place depicted", linked to our Geographical Thesaurus. Best regards, Dieter Dieter Van Hassel Archives & Collection Management Royal Museum for Central Africa 3080 Tervuren Belgium http://www.africamuseum.be ________________________________ From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Morgan, Amber [[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 4:07 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: identifying sitter or subject of a painting/portrait through constituent xref We have two roles that fall into this category, “subject depicted/about” and “subject associated.” I’m not a huge fan of either but that’s what we are using (for now). Personally I think it’s unclear what the difference is between the two or how they are supposed to be used. We also make use of the suffix field. The subject of a portrait would have a role of “subject depicted/about” with a suffix of “depicted.” The suffix is what most people will see, so even though the roles are a little vague, the suffix clarifies it. I’m not saying this is the best way of doing this, but we’ve been going with this and it’s worked out for the most part. I’d be really interested to see what terms other museums are using for the role for depicted constituents. [cid:image001.png@01D050E1.BED18450] Best regards, Amber the warhol: Amber E. Morgan Collections Manager 117 Sandusky Street Pittsburgh, PA 15212 T 412.237.8306 F 412.237.8340 E [log in to unmask] W www.warhol.org<http://www.warhol.org/> The Andy Warhol Museum One of the four Carnegie Museums of Pittsburgh Email newsletter http://members.carnegiemuseums.org/email Membership http://members.carnegiemuseums.org/SupportCMP warhol: facebook<http://www.facebook.com/thewarholmuseum> | warhol: twitter<http://www.twitter.com/thewarholmuseum> From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Meissner, Elizabeth A - (meissner) Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:26 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: identifying sitter or subject of a painting/portrait through constituent xref We use Associated Person. Betsi Meissner Registration Center for Creative Photography Sent from my iPad On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:22 AM, Wilson Jarred <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: Hi all, I’m trying to wrap my head around an issue involving constituent xrefs on object records. For sitters of portraits, we have utilized a role called “Sitter” to link a constituent to the object record. We would like to do something similar with people depicted (but who didn’t necessarily model or sit for a piece) in a photograph or poster. “Sitter” doesn’t seem to work well because, based on the Getty AAT definition<http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=sitter&logic=AND¬e=&page=1&subjectid=300189844>, it relates very specifically to portrait and not to other visual works. I am hesitant to call them the “Subject” because I think that term would get confused with overall subject or genre of a painting (i.e. “allegory”). Has anyone used constituent xrefs in the object record to identify the person depicted in a photograph? If so, what role have you used to do this? If anyone has any insight which they could pass along, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance! Sincerely, Jarred Wilson Associate Registrar The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art 5401 Bay Shore Road Sarasota, FL 34243 tel. 941-359-5700 x1504 fax 941-359-7716 www.ringling.org<http://www.ringling.org/> <image002.jpg> To unsubscribe, send an email to [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> with the following commands in the body of the email: signoff TMSUSERS // eoj You will receive a confirmation that your subscription has been removed. To unsubscribe, send an email to [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> with the following commands in the body of the email: signoff TMSUSERS // eoj You will receive a confirmation that your subscription has been removed. 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