Here at the Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery, we use the role "Sitter" for any person depicted in an artwork. If an associated person is not actually depicted (e.g. Abraham Lincoln's autograph), we use the role "Associated Person". The NPG London seems to use only the roles "Sitter" and "Artist" too. Sue Garton Data Administrator National Portrait Gallery (202) 633-8554 | [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Timko, Merrianne Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:40 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: identifying sitter or subject of a painting/portrait through constituent xref Some works (e.g., photographs) in our collection include ten or more "identified" individuals. Other works may be associated with an individual (e.g., a silver piece presented to an historical figure). We are temporarily "parking" information in two flex fields, pending future development of subject cataloguing. These fields are: Associated with Person depicted Merrianne Timko Data Standards Manager The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston PO Box 6826 Houston, Texas 77265-6826 713.353.1523 Office From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gabriela Zoller Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 10:10 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: identifying sitter or subject of a painting/portrait through constituent xref We use depicts (object - person/place) and depicted in (person/place - object) Best, Gabriela Gabriela Zoller Acting Head of Research Resources / Art Collection Cataloger Department of Research Resources Albright-Knox Art Gallery 1285 Elmwood Avenue Buffalo, New York 14222 716.270.8277 (ph) [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> From: The Museum System (TMS) Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Wilson Jarred Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 8:22 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: identifying sitter or subject of a painting/portrait through constituent xref Hi all, I'm trying to wrap my head around an issue involving constituent xrefs on object records. For sitters of portraits, we have utilized a role called "Sitter" to link a constituent to the object record. We would like to do something similar with people depicted (but who didn't necessarily model or sit for a piece) in a photograph or poster. "Sitter" doesn't seem to work well because, based on the Getty AAT definition<http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=sitter&logic=AND¬e=&page=1&subjectid=300189844>, it relates very specifically to portrait and not to other visual works. I am hesitant to call them the "Subject" because I think that term would get confused with overall subject or genre of a painting (i.e. "allegory"). Has anyone used constituent xrefs in the object record to identify the person depicted in a photograph? If so, what role have you used to do this? If anyone has any insight which they could pass along, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance! Sincerely, Jarred Wilson Associate Registrar The John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art 5401 Bay Shore Road Sarasota, FL 34243 tel. 941-359-5700 x1504 fax 941-359-7716 www.ringling.org<http://www.ringling.org/> [TheRingling_iconsTOP_fsu] To unsubscribe, send an email to [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> with the following commands in the body of the email: signoff TMSUSERS // eoj You will receive a confirmation that your subscription has been removed. To unsubscribe, send an email to [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> with the following commands in the body of the email: signoff TMSUSERS // eoj You will receive a confirmation that your subscription has been removed. To unsubscribe, send an email to [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> with the following commands in the body of the email: signoff TMSUSERS // eoj You will receive a confirmation that your subscription has been removed. To unsubscribe, send an email to [log in to unmask] with the following commands in the body of the email: signoff TMSUSERS // eoj You will receive a confirmation that your subscription has been removed.