Hi Jennifer,
Rosemary Crill has sent me the following information -
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From: Rosemary Crill <[log in to unmask]>
To: LYNDA HILLYER <[log in to unmask]>
Cc: John Clarke <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, 14 January 2013, 9:41
Subject: Re: Fw: what is 'tibet' fabric?
Dear Lynda,
I'm sure the thick 'pulu' cloth used in Tibet would not have been
exported to Holland, and it certainly doesn't fit the description of
'very fine woollen fabric for making dresses'. This must surely be
cashmere/pashmina. The shawl goats do live in Tibet and the fibre
is spun and woven in Ladakh and Kashmir, so calling it Tibet cloth would
not be far wrong.
Trade textile terms are often vague, and frequently lose their
'real' meaning when they get to their destination (eg Turkey red etc),
in this case Holland, so I wouldn't be too concerned that it doesn't
literally come from Tibet.
In answer to another question she wrote:
Tibet would not have exported any textiles, it would have been for local use.
Not sure what references would
be relevant but she could refer to Monisha Ahmed's chapter 'Textile Arts of Ladakh' in M.Ahmed and Clare Harris eds. Ladakh: Culture at the Crossroads, Mumbai, Marg publications, 2005.
Let me know if you have any further questions - or you could email Rosemary direct,
Best wishes,
Lynda
Regards
Dr Michael Marendy
Conservation, Curatorial and Education Consultant
(Costume, Clothing and Textiles)
Studio 105
Tel: 07 3870 2675
Fax: 07 3871 2457
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On 12/01/2013, at 6:43 AM, Jennifer Barnett wrote:
Thank you Kim and Lynda,
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>I have since discovered in a Dutch on-line dictionary that tibet is made from Tibetan sheep rather than goats or antelopes in the Himalayas. It seems the sheep have an undercoat of fine wool as well as the coarser, hairier outer coat, according to the Wikipedia pages on these sheep.
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>Good to hear of 'thibet'. Which OED did you use? I have the Concise version, the Mac OS version which I thought was quite extensive, Oxford Reference Online and Oxford Art/Grove Art Online, Oxford Dictionaries Online but could not find tibet (fabric).
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>Yes, 'stuff' is an old term for fabric. Incidentally, 'stof' is one of the Dutch terms for fabric and still used today.
>And indeed, there are many varieties on the same terms and not just for textiles, which is vaguely reassuring.
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>The search goes on...
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>Jennifer Barnett
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