LACMA uses "unknown" and we also have an "anonymous" record for curatorial
to use where they think appropriate. I've never had any interest in
"unidentified" expressed to me before but it's an interesting idea.

-A

On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Fidler, Evelyn (KL) <[log in to unmask]>
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> I also like the term unidentified versus unknown which is what we
> currently use.
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> The Smithsonian National Portrait Gallery has always used “Unidentified
> Artist”--since way back when we were using a flat file system in the 1970s.
> I’m guessing the standard came from the catalouging guidelines developed by
> NPG’s research archive, the Catalog of American Portraits, but I’d have to
> really dig to find the documentation.
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> Sue Garton
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> Hi Fatima,
>
> Our director also prefers "Unidentified" over "Unknown" artist and we've
> been making the change in TMS.
>
> I suppose it's a subtle difference, but I like "unidentified" because it
> implies the artist's identity could still be discovered, while "unknown"
> sounds more final, like the museum has given up trying to learn more about
> the object.
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> I'd be curious to hear what other institutions are doing as well.
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> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Mahdi, Fatima (VMFA) <
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> Hi folks!
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> Is anyone at an institution that is using “Artist: Unidentified” in TMS
> and/or on object labels for unidentified artists rather than “Artist:
> Unknown”? Has anyone noticed a move in the direction of “Unidentified”, or
> does anyone know of any discussion of this issue online or in print?
>
> One of our curators is in favor of “Unidentified”, and I like it better,
> too, but it will be easier to sway the institution if we can say that
> others are thinking along these lines.
>
> Thanks, All!
>
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> Fatima Mahdi
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